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PatsPropaganda Contributor Roundtable: Part II

July 17, 2016 by Mike Dussault

Our round table continues…

What does your opening day offensive line look like?

Pete Smith: Solder – Kline – Stork – Cooper – Vollmer

Rick Starke: Solder, Mason, Andrews, Stork, Vollmer.

Niko Davos: Nate Solder, Shaq Mason, Brian Stork, Jonathan Cooper, and Sebastian Vollmer.

Jamie Conway : I’ll go Solder-Kline-Andrews-Mason-Vollmer. Really just the fact that Scar’s back and hopefully that rotation garbage is vanquished should improve any line.

Adam Magnacca:  I think opening day line is Solder-Cooper-Stork-Shaq-Vollmer

Which running back gets the most touches week one?

Pete Smith: LeGarette Blount. The Patriots need to ease Dion Lewis back into the game plan.

Rick Starke: Whichever running back not named Brandon Bolden is on the least fantasy rosters.

Niko Davos: Lewis will probably be brought back slowly, I’ll go with LeGarrette Blount. I think McDaniels will try to establish the run against a stiff Cardinals’ pass defense, putting the young gunslinger in the best situations to succeed.

Jamie Conway: Will do a longer piece about this the week of the game, but this RB positional group will be more match-up oriented than any other on the roster. I’d say whoever our big back will be used up the middle and off tackle (hi, Chandler) against the Cardinals, just to keep them honest. 9-10 touches – Blount.

Adam Magnacca: In an ideal world, Dion Lewis gets the most touches for a back. However, they might be gentle with him coming off of injury and I’m fine with that.

What team in the AFC scares you the most?

Pete Smith: Kansas City. While it may seem like a distant memory now, this is the team that dismantled us in week 4 of 2014. Granted this loss also gave us the greatest montage intro content ever (thanks Trent Dilfer!), but it should serve as a reminder that the Patriots, especially on the road, are still capable of losing big on occasion.

Rick Starke: The New England Patriots IR squad. Maybe Pittsburgh.

Niko Davos: Has to be Pittsburgh. That offense is silly talented. Luckily the defense is a sieve and Brady consistently shreds them.

Jamie Conway: It’s only a half-team really, but Denver’s D.

Adam Magnacca: In the AFC I’m the most afraid of the Bengals. Their Defense is no joke with a formidable pass defense and Andy Dalton has only gotten better. Let’s not forget the Bengals were competitive in the post season with AJ McCarron at the helm.

Favorite Non-Super Bowl Pats Win?

Pete Smith: 2014 AFC Division Game vs Baltimore. Down 14-0 then 28-14. BB’s “do your job” speech. Terrell Suggs as the perfect villain. Ineligible, eligible receiver play. Double pass. The dime to LaFell. Harmon’s clinching interception. One of the most satisfying and electric games I’ve ever watched.

Rick Starke: 2004 AFCCG vs Steelers…or divisional round that year vs the Colts. Both just thorough thrashings that really encapsulated everything about the “Patriot Way”. Let your play do the talking.

Niko Davos: The 2013 comeback from down 24-0 at half against the Broncos. Why? Can’t stand the Broncos, can’t stand Peyton Manning. That one felt good, real good.

Jamie Conway: Ravens Divisional Round ’14, cuz @#$% them.

Favorite Current Player? Favorite All-Time Player?

Pete Smith: LeGarette Blount. LeGarette Blount.

Rick Starke: For non-Brady current favorites, either Ninkovich or James Develin. All-time: Tedy Bruschi.

Niko Davos: Other than the obvious (Brady), I have to go with Big Vince Wilfork for all-time, and Dont’a Hightower for current. You’ve got to love those lunch pail blue-collar type defensive studs.

Jamie Conway:  A. Edelman, he’s top 3 WR in the NFL but gets treated like a system guy.  B. C’mon. I mean I like Ben Coates, but there’s only one true love.

Adam Magnacca: My favorite current player has to be Gronk. He’s just impossible not to root for and he plays like a champion while having fun. Watching him against the Broncos the last three times they’ve faced off he’s played ferociously. It feels like Brady’s clutch gene is starting to rub off.

Which loss still haunts you the most?

Pete Smith: Super Bowl XLII. 

Rick Starke: After working on my first article: 2006 AFC Championship game vs the Colts. HOW did they lose that game after that start?!

Niko Davos: 18-1. And it’s not close. I’ll stop there while I still have my hair and fingernails.

Jamie Conway: ’08 Season. Would have been 19-0, for real.

Adam Magnacca:  I’ll never forget “The Super Bowl That Shall Not Be Named” and I think that’s all I will say about that

 Favorite Tom Brady moment of all-time?

 

Pete Smith & Niko Davos:

Rick Starke: Every time he rushes for a first down/touchdown and is incredibly fired up. I don’t think I’ve seen that in a loss, ever.

Jamie Conway: SNL Sexual Harassment sketch. 

Adam Magnacca: My favorite Tom Brady moment of all time might be watching him juke Brian Urlacher on a scramble. A Brady run for more than 1 yard is exciting on its own and to see him fake out an all time linebacker was A.) Hilarious B.) Awesome.

Favorite Deflategate character?

 Pete Smith: Jeffrey Kessler. “Your honor is spot on.”

Rick Starke: Whoever finally ends it, hopefully with a pro-Brady conclusion.

Niko Davos: The GOAT Judge, Mr. Richard M. Berman, the one guy who didn’t see Brady through a villainous lens, and was able to make his ruling with practicality and common sense. Sounds crazy, huh? Let’s hope the rest of the gentlemen at the Second Circuit Court of Appeals take a page out of his book…

Jamie Conway: Kirk Minihane: DID YOU READ THE WELLS REPORT!!!

Adam Magnacca: I’m just so sick of Deflategate. I don’t care about the suspension, I’m fine with seeing what Jimmy can do and letting Brady stay fresh. I just hate that people are still convinced that Brady HAD to have orchestrated some evil plot to reduce the PSI by roughly 0.01. People…

 Favorite piece of Patriots swag to wear on gamedays?

Pete Smith: #88 Terry Glenn Home Blue ‘90s Jersey. The 90’s Pats “Futbol” jerseys with double flying Elvis shoulders were atrocious and beautiful at the same time. In the market for an Otis Smith jersey if anyone has any leads.

Rick Starke: I actually am against wearing gameday swag with logos on it. Seems like teams I cheer for lose when I wear their logos on gameday.

Niko Davos: This exact look, every weekend: Pats’ winter hat, Blue Wilfork jersey as a scarf, Brady red…

Jamie Conway: Portnoy’s The North Remembers hoodie.

Adam Magnacca: When it’s a big game I go to my original Reebok TB12 jersey. Can’t go wrong

Best live game experience (if applicable)?

Pete Smith: 2015 Week 10 Pats @ NYG  (27 – 26)

Rick Starke: My first attended Patriots game was the first ever Brady comeback…against the Chargers in the rain, down 10 with 3 minutes to go. I’ve only been to five games ever.

Niko Davos: November 22, 2012 at the Meadowlands, also known as the “Buttfumble” game. At that point in the season, the Jets fans were so livid with their team that by the second half they were high fiving the New England faithful every time the Pats punched one in. It was electric. A 35 point second quarter…will that ever be done again?

Jamie Conway: Every live game experience I’ve had was in the old stadium where you could walk down. So none.

Adam Magnacca: My favorite live Patriots game experience was seeing Peyton’s last game versus NE as a Colt. I was sitting in the 6th row (through a small miracle) and was on the side closest to James Sander’s game clinching interception. So much celebratory beer flew in the air. It. Was. Amazing.

Filed Under: Analysis Tagged With: contributors, round table

PatsPropaganda Contributor Roundtable: Part I

July 16, 2016 by Mike Dussault

As you might’ve noticed in the past week, it’s not just me Mike D posting content here on PatsPropaganda anymore. I’ve added a handful of contributors to help this season. All are passionate and knowledgeable Patriots fans and I’m excited that there will be more great content than ever on the site thanks to them. You can check out more on each of them here.

While some of their pieces have already been posted, I thought a good way to introduce everyone to some of the contributors would be a round table discussion with everyone, with topics ranging from their Patriots fandom to their opinions on the upcoming season.

Here’s part one:

What are you most excited for with the 2016 Patriots as we get ready to open camp? 

Pete Smith: The running game benefiting from a healthy Blount & Lewis, and an improved offensive line. It won’t matter who starts at QB if these two play to the best of their abilities. An improved offensive line, aided by the return of Dante Scarnecchia, should pave the way for what I see as a top-5 RB combo in the NFL.

Rick Starke: Some football. The offseason seems longer every year, especially when certain particular “scandals” can’t seem to disappear. 3 out of the past 4 offseasons have been littered with ugliness, some manufactured, some really, really unfortunate.

Niko Davos: Oh come on. This one’s easy. Gronk and Bennett. Bennett and Gronk. On paper, the towering tight end duo is as difficult to defend as any pair Brady’s had to work with, including Moss and Welker. If the O-line can just be average this season, good freakin’ luck keeping the good guys out of the end zone.

Jamie Conway: Seeing how wide-open at least two of the stable of quick release receivers (Edelman, Amendola, Hogan, D. Lewis) and loping giants (Bennett and Gronk) will be on nearly every play.

Adam Magnacca: I’m most excited to get an inkling of how the team uses the new pieces they’ve gained this offseason. Are they going to use Bennett as another Y TE or will they see if they can use him as a move guy or maybe some weird combination of both? Will Shea McClellin be an edge guy or will be in the middle of the linebackers? There are so many interesting twists these and other new additions could create for the team this season

What are you most concerned about?

Pete Smith: Depth at Offensive Tackle. When Solder went down last year the Offensive Line never really seemed to be able to identify a reliable replacement at left tackle. This led to a constant shuffling and rotating of personnel upfront, and the line never seemed to really gel like previous lines. The Patriots did little to address these concerns with the addition of two primarily interior linemen in Thuney and Karas. This leaves the beguiled Marcus Cannon (a potential cap casualty), LaAdrian Waddle & Keavon Milton as the primary backup tackles. All things considered, this is a great problem to have, but one that I would have preferred seen addressed with a FA signing or trade.

Rick Starke: Depth at runningback has to be the biggest concern for all Patriots fans. I can’t see anywhere else on the roster that hasn’t been addressed. Perhaps the return of Dante Scarnecchia will be all that is needed to push the running game to the next level.

Niko Davos: The offensive line is by far the biggest concern. If you watched the godforsaken AFC Title game and saw Brady get hit 20 (!!!) times, that much is obvious. There is reason for optimism though, with the return of coach Dante Scarnecchia from retirement, tackle Nate Solder from injury, the infusion of new talent (Cooper, Thuney) and the expected in-house development. 

Adam Magnacca: I’m gonna go out on a limb and say I’m a little concerned about the Special Teams. It was not nearly as strong last year as it has been since Belichick took over. I’m hoping they tighten up in that area but we’re not really gonna see if what they’ve been doing will come to fruition until the preseason starts.

Under-the-radar player you think could breakout in camp?

Pete Smith: Jonathan Jones. Fits the mold of a typical Patriots corner. Has great speed (4.33 40), and great ball skills. Played in the SEC with Auburn. I was surprised he went undrafted, and with $35K guaranteed as a signing bonus for an UDFA, it reflects the value the Patriots saw in his skill set. According to multiple reports he’s looked good in camp so far, so I guess this is a bit of a safe pick.

Rick Starke: I’d love to see Kamu Grugier-Hill turn into more than just a bubble player. Freakish athlete Swiss army knife type players are certainly more bust than boom, but one more piece like that for the Patriots defense could push them into top-3 in the league realm.

Niko Davos: Tight end/fullback Clay Harbor was an interesting offseason acquisition that flew under the radar. He’s had a somewhat underwhelming career up until this point with Philadelphia/Jacksonville (26 catches in 2014 is his career high) but he’s a 6’3 250 pounder that can run a 4.6 40–yard dash, so the attractiveness from the Patriots’ perspective is clear. He has a Swiss-army knife skillset; one Josh McDaniels is drooling over as we speak.

Jamie Conway: Keshawn Martin or Nate Washington.

Adam Magnacca: I don’t know if it will happen but I want nothing more than for TE AJ Derby to explode on the scene. I want him to add another weapon to the TE room and scare the bejeezus out of the opposing D-Coordinators. If he turns into the Swiss army at TE who can line up anywhere and match up with anyone I would jump and down with joy.

Veteran player you could see as a surprise cut?

Pete Smith: Marcus Cannon. He has a big contract and I don’t think anyone on the OL outside of Solder and Vollmer has job safety right now. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Patriots roll the dice on Waddle or Milton in place of Cannon.

Rick Starke: Somebody in the trenches, most likely. There are a LOT of defensive ends on the roster, and a LOT of offensive linemen on the roster. Maybe Blount.

Niko Davos: Would Aaron Dobson be a surprise cut? No? OK, I’ll do better than that… Obviously something is going to have to give with the offensive line so my attention is there. Although they probably don’t qualify as “veterans”, 2015 rookies and occasional starters David Andrews and Tre Jackson need to perform in camp to stick around. That goes for Josh Kline as well. Jackson has had injury issues throughout his short career, so I could also see him beginning the year stashed on the “PUP” list.

Adam Magnacca: Bill always has a surprise camp cut and while some might not be shocked I could see them not keeping Clay Harbor. Even though he had a signing bonus, the team doesn’t care about that at final cuts. I think the offensive positions are pretty full and I don’t know that he’s different enough from James Develin, who the team loves.

What position battle intrigues you most?

Pete Smith: Last two defensive back spots. The battle between veteran E.J. Biggers, Justin Coleman, Darryl Roberts & Jonathan Jones should be intense for what I think will be ultimately 2 spots. I’m high on Jones and hope Roberts can oust Coleman. I’m not sure Biggers is anything more than a veteran camp presence.

Rick Starke: The interior of the offensive line. Stork has lined up everywhere, so he’s not a lock at center, but definitely a lock as a starter. Between three years of trades, draft, and free agent finds, there is a logjam of players there.

Niko Davos: Running back. After not drafting a back (which I was admittedly upset by), it’s clear the Hoodie trusts what he has in-house. With Blount the only power back (Bolden is primarily special teams), Dion presumably being handled with caution coming off the ACL, who steps up in the early going? I’m a fan of James White, but he’s not a great runner between the tackles. We know exactly what Donald Brown is, and I’m not sure that’s a good thing. Can the shifty undrafted rookie DJ Foster make the two aforementioned backs sweat their respective roster spots?

Jamie Conway: D Tackle: Branch, PotRoast, Malcolm Brown and Vincent Valentine show how a free agent depth acquisition can turn a vulnerable group into a real strength. 

Adam Magnacca: I’m most interested in how the offensive line shakes out. I think it’s an incredibly young and competitive group and nothing but good can come from that competition. Worst case scenario, the depth on the team is A+ and those young guys not starting are hungry for snaps.

Part II comes tomorrow!

Filed Under: Analysis Tagged With: contributors, round table

A Look Back at the Patriots Silent Snap

July 12, 2016 by Rick Starke

When we last left our beloved Patriots, this is what we were left to chew on for 7 months:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFFZws3Apbo

Some of the plays made here can be attributed to this fact: Von Miller was the second overall pick in the draft in 2011. Many players live up to the expectations of being a high draft pick. Many other players do not. Some, like Von Miller, end up good enough that in hindsight that even using #1 overall pick seems like a steal. The interception and the open field tackles that Miller made throughout the game speak for themselves.

His major effect, though, came through rushing the passer. He appeared to be as dialed in as any single top-tier pass rusher the Patriots have ever faced in a big game…and there have been many. Dwight Freeney, Julius Peppers, Justin Tuck/Jason Pierre-Paul/Michael Strahan, Michael Bennett/Cliff Avril/Bruce Irvin, Terrell Suggs, JJ Watt, Jason Taylor…some had great games, some were completely neutralized, and again…there was Von Miller.

In the following days, several writers and radio hosts attempted figure out what went wrong (many of them simply blaming the entire game on Marcus Cannon), with the most brief but most likely accurate assessment coming from a Matt Light interview on WAAF:

“[Denver] is a horrible place to go play, especially in that circumstance,” he said. “You’ve got the best defense in the league. You’re in their place. And you don’t practice a snap count? It blows my mind that, really, the game was lost because of a snap count. I don’t think that they practiced their snap count at all, really, to any degree. We went into a game being able to snap silent count five different ways. Not two. Five. And in that game, I watched them on the snap count and I was blown away. You’re handcuffing your tackles, and that’s what happens when you don’t effectively run a silent snap count. And it was terrible to watch.”

This was regarding not just a standard snap count, but specifically, the silent snap. The silent snap is a tool for catching the defense off guard when crowd noise is a factor. The essential signal for a silent snap is typically some sort of head move by the center to alert the offense to “snap about to happen!”. If your silent snap is effective, it can do a great job to keep the offensive line in charge…if ineffective, well…scroll up. Video. Hit play again.

These revelations had fallouts on other outlets that caused the blame to be redirected to Bryan Stork, such as this video from an Inside The Pylon article:

http://cdn.insidethepylon.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/StorkVideo2.mp4

This same snap happened multiple times, but made me wonder: Did this same snap happen in the past? As a former center myself (though never past the high school level, being 5’10 and 145lbs at age 18 has some limitations), I’ve always dialed in on movement of the offensive lines, and always thought to myself while watching Patriots games “how is nobody keying on this?”, dating back to the Dan Koppen era.

Let’s take a look back at some other Patriots away losses in big games and see what we have…

Patriots Silent Snap
Dan Koppen at center vs the Broncos in 2005. Several instances of this timing throughout the game, same “tip” as Stork was accused of.

colts 06 snap
Also Koppen, same head bob immediately before the snap. Occurs multiple times.

broncos 13 snap
This is with Ryan Wendell at center. Almost identical timing to the Stork and Koppen snaps, with a very tiny delay between head bob and snap. Perhaps enough to draw a defense offside? Perhaps what Light was referring to? Or simply an idiosyncracy of Wendell vs the other two? This snap happens on seemingly every silent snap throughout the game, and was the last game with Dante Scarnecchia as the offensive line coach…and no Von Miller, as he was injured midseason.

When you dial in on a center’s head bob at youtube quality video for a couple hours, you really start to feel like some sort of 9/11 truther, just digging for clues that don’t exist.

Hopefully, with the return of Scarnecchia and perhaps a few less injuries, we can consider this mystery solved and an offense that runs on all cylinders, with the several types of silent snaps that Light referenced.

Filed Under: Analysis Tagged With: bryan stork, contributors, Dan Koppen, matt light, offensive line, rick starke, snap

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